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Re: So you think technology is good????


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Posted by wisbaker on July 29, 2014 at 18:06:00 from (173.30.33.15):

In Reply to: So you think technology is good???? posted by NCWayne on July 28, 2014 at 06:36:07:

I take exception to the comment that carburetors are more trouble free than fuel injection. Current automotive fleet at my house is all injected let's look at them one by one- 1986 Ford Mustang 148,00 miles, we had to replace one injector at 136,000 miles ($100), replaced the MAF once (used $75)Dad bought it new, that's the only fuel system work other than filters and a fuel pump. 1991 Honda Accord, 282,000 miles it's had fuel filters and nothing else, the rail has never been off, no position or airflow sensor work ever! 2001 Ford f-150 155,000 miles I rolled a set of injectors into it at 100,000 because something was wrong, Ford said they're all that way nothing we can do about it. I elected to replace the injectors and bought a set of type IV injectors a little smaller than the original, I wanted to replace them because of some suspicious injector noise, I chose a smaller injector trying to push my MPG up. I bought take out injectors, a set of 8 for $100. This cured the injector noise (sounded like a diesel at idle) AND cleared up excessive spark knock, seems it had a weak injector since new and Ford decided to save warranty costs by not fixing it (or the leaky back window), Ford will save a lot more on warranty as I will never buy a new Ford after this one. Oh yes and I change the fuel filter every 30,000 miles. Last 2007 Dodge Caravan 96,000 miles the only fuel system work was Chrysler changed a intake gasket that was leaking at the 5 year inspection for the lifetime power train warranty, tried changing fuel filters but it's part of the pump and decided not to put a new fuel pump on it every 30,000 miles.

Some folks complain about all the technology in new cars, and I agree some of it is excessive but it's given us vehicles that will run 200,000 miles plus with normal maintenance and in some cases significantly more. Yes about 50% of my vehicles (in a non scientific sampling) have had fuel problems. But if you round up to 500 dollars to include incidentals and stuff I've forgotten, subtract a bit because spark plugs go 100,000 miles on newer stuff we're still looking at 576,000 miles of use on 9 injectors, one maf sensor and a gasket, and if Ford owned their mistakes and honored their warranties it's only be 2 injectors. Throw in the 36,000 miles I drove a Bronco II with no fuel issues I'm over 600,000 miles on not very many parts.

For 6 years I ran a motor pool for a county government, all fuel injected vehicles 90%+ of the time you can run a new vehicle 75,000 miles and trade for nothing more than 1 1/2 sets of tires and 1 1/2 brake jobs. The brake jobs statistics are high because I had 6 Malibus everyone of them ate 2 sets of brakes to get to 75,000 miles.

Yes I've had to learn a few things just to be an educated consumer but the fuel and repair savings more than make up for it. When I was in college I saved up and bought a new Renault Lecar (don't ask I know it was a mistake) it got 33 MPG, Our Honda when new did about 33 MPG on the highway, My daughter's Ford Fusion does better than that and it's bigger, has automatic transmission and air conditioning.


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