Posted by JD Seller on January 07, 2018 at 10:32:42 from (208.126.196.24):
In Reply to: Re: Solar electricity posted by JD Seller on January 07, 2018 at 07:48:48:
I personally have not taken any AG subsidies in over 30 years. I do not even use the crop insurance program anymore. My sons do use crop insurance but do not use the other Federal subsidies. I have not even used the soil conservation services in over 20 years. The cost share usually hardly covers the additional cost of how the bean counters want things done. I can build about the same footage of terraces without the government red tape as I can with the co-pay.
That is part of the trouble with all of this too. The government can not do anything efficiently. So anything involving the government is inherently inefficient from the get go.
VicS and Pete in MD are both missing the intent of my post. I think that there should be incentives to practical solutions to problems or help for new ideas. The trouble is the solar and wind subsidies do not pass any type of common sense test for them being practical. They only work by driving up the general cost of energy to equal there cost even with the subsidies. Also they do not save anything on the conventional generation side. You still have to have the ability to conventionally generate all the needed electric for the times the renewable ones are not producing anything. Then you add in the fact that the majority of the wind power industry infrastructure/ie. wind mills, are produced in China so your not even helping the domestic economy that much. I am not sure of where the solar panels are produced but I would bet it is not in the US. I know there are toxic materials used in the manufacture of the photo cells used in the panels so I would guess they are made in China too.
There is not really much of an economic reason for the current renewable programs. They are all just "Feel Good" programs that the elites can point at as doing their part is "Saving the world'. The cost of electric is not a concern for them as the majority of them can easily afford to pay whatever for their energy needs/wants. That leaves the rest of the nation to suffer the added costs of these programs. So the middle class keeps struggling to maintain a standard of living. The manufacturing base just moves elsewhere so they can compete. Both of these things just stress the bubble we are making more. It will collapse in the future and I am not sure the nation will survive that in a form even close to the past. A socialistic nanny state is more likely.
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