Yea I know Tank. I guess my chart came from a govt site that was just fuel data, they weren’t pushing an agenda. I don’t know how to do any more than that, if we don’t trust data (and I do hear you on the overload of agenda driven data!) then we really can’t even have a conversation. Because you will supply infor from Texas and Oklahoma that I’m going to have troubles believing.
Looking up that chart, I passed over a whole lot of industry data sites, I know that wouldn’t fly, heck I’d suspect them too. I found a Berkeley (typically anti-Ag) study that thought biodiesel was marginally good and actually showed ethanol is far cheaper than gasoline, but it went on and on and on in dull and difficult to figure charts and points, so I didn’t put that up.
I live in amongst quite a few ethanol plants, and we have mighty cheap corn here. The basis is always bad. Our corn is a lot cheaper than corn in Texas or Virginia or Illinois. So making ethanol here is kinda cheap. The alternative is shipping the corn 1/2 way across the country. So it’s really cheap to use it here.
I live with a couple of soybean squeezing plants near me. Soybeans also are pretty cheap, we have a lot of bad basis, beans are a buck cheaper than you hear on the radio CBOT. Nobody wants to buy a whole soybean around here. They are worthless. A few places want some oil, but most it needs to get shipped far away. What people around here want is the soybean meal for feed. So we get a lot of soy oil sitting around in giant tanker farms, and what to do with it? Costs money to ship it away. Makes it darn cheap to process it into diesel fuel blend.
And really, that’s all I know. We raise a product here, we process it here,, and we use it here. It’s a pretty cheap process. With pretty cheap grains, the end product is pretty cheap.
I don’t know where you get your $1.30 from, but if you won’t believe a simple chart, and I should believe your $1.30..... well, yea ok. We can all read a whole lot of ‘facts’ on Facebook, of course that makes you right. :) you betcha.
You have a good day. We will probably disagree on this again some day.
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