Re: Hauling Ford 8N with small pickup

Posted by ed1 on September 02, 2004 at 10:58:51 from (198.185.163.6):

In Reply to: Re: Hauling Ford 8N with small pickup posted by Adam Paul on September 02, 2004 at 09:42:54:

Adam

I respectively disagree.

First, the type of drivers license you have makes a difference.

Second, the registered weight also has an impact

Third, Cops are smart enough to pull you over for something else to check your situation out.

IF you have a CDL you can most certainly be pulled over and asked for your log book and weighed if the officer wants. You are also cannot pass a weight station with our being weighed or instructed to pass.

With a passenger car license their more easy going – no logbook or weight station requirement.

Next, a vehicle towing more weight than it’s designed for will sway especially if the trailer is 3 or 4 times over the weight capacity of the towing vehicle. If you have a CDL this equals JAIL – not sure what it means for a passenger car drivers license. Excessive swaying = reckless driving – you most certainly be pulled over for that - the cop can even arrest you and impound the vehicle and trailer if he feels it’s necessary.

Their is also the 10,000 # question that is not at all clear. The federal govt. says you need a CDL plus endorsements to pull a trailer weighing 10,000 or more, most states use a combined weight - NY is 26,000#.

Safety, I certainly would not feel comfortable driving a 1,000 or 2,000 uni-body frame (basically a beer can) with a 12,000# trailer. I want a frame and a little more weight. Even my F-350 will have trouble stopping my loaded 9,998# trailer if the trailer brakes are not adjusted properly. Let’s not forget that 500# or 1,000# tongue weight becomes a lot more when braking - I wouldn’t be surprised if the trailer ripped the hitch right off the car. Light sheet metal simply can’t support the amount of weight that shifts forward when breaking. Also remember an evenly or close to balanced trailer will sway more.

As far as the engine and trans. go – it’s counter intuitive to believe exceeding a towing vehicles capacity by 3 or 4x will not have an impact on reliability. The V6 with a different trans and gear rations might be ok but the trans simply will not. Motor and trans mounts might be the first to go but couldn’t rule out chipping a gear or two.

Adam, you’re correct in pointing out their are a number of loopholes in the law for those that have only a passenger car driver’s license. I hope that some dummy doesn’t mess it up and make everyone’s life more difficult. It only takes one major accident to make headlines and put pressure on our legislatures make some stupid law that doesn’t fix the problem and makes our lives more difficult. Their probably should be a non-commercial license to pull a trailer where the driver has to show good common sense and the ability to handle what he is driving.

On the common sense front – anyone pulling a 12,000 # trailer with a Camery could not only be pulled over but taken away by the guy’s with the little white jackets. You would have to be more than a little crazy to risk your life like this.

Davis In SC

I’d like to know more about the dually. I thought they could handle some serious weight. Ford 8000’s are big but didn’t think they were that heavy - I could be wrong - Or possibly the high sides made it sway more.

Would like to know more

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