Re: 1086 International

Posted by davpal on July 03, 2006 at 19:41:47 from (216.93.120.66):

In Reply to: Re: 1086 International posted by Jonfarmer on July 03, 2006 at 18:25:28:

The best T/A in any tractor is no T/A in any tractor. Face the facts, they ALL go bad soon enough. The amount of time they save you from having them in the tractor over the years can never overcome the price of the labor and parts to fix them when they go bad. Most tractors need a 5 speed transmission on them like a farmall H. No Go@ Da*m powershift to go out! 5th gear to go down the road, 2nd or 3rd for plowing and 3rd or 4th to disk of field cultivate. The T/A's they are putting in these tractors are physically not much bigger than a 205 borg warner gear drive transfer case found in early ford, chevy, and dodge 4wd pickups! Bottom line, if they are going to put a T/A in a tractor it should have a flange in the front and a flange in the back that can be taken out as an assembly in about an hour. Not a 40 hour job at a dealer at $85 dollars an hour. Ends up being a $6000 dollar repair on a big tractor because of the time and expensive parts and nobody wants to do it for you anyway. I am facing this on a white 4-150 someday, It is a brute and seems to do quite well, just one basic archillees heel and that is the tree speed powershift that they promptly took out when they built the 4-180 a few years later. (Good idea)! So what, it has 12 speeds instead of 16, but is much more durable. The tractor companies are trying to swoon us in whith gadgets like the car companies and all they are building are machines that are a liability to own. Walk around a tractor junkyard and there are many more late model tractors that cost more to fix than they are worth that look ok. Then look at all the farms that are still using old JD 2 poppers, Farmall H, M, C, A, Bn's, fergesons, ford 9n and 8ns, Allis Wds. Powershifts are gimmicks and a guy could probably get rich by designing "dummy shafts" that replace the T/A for a couple hundred bucks a piece. I know a lot of you have powershifts with 10,000 hrs on them but most of the people have a nightmare story about a powershift, not a success story. Later

Replies:

• Re: 1086 International Jonfarmer 11:46:55 07/04/06 (2)
  • Re: 1086 International davpal 19:05:19 07/04/06 (0)
  • Re: 1086 International RodInNS 14:56:33 07/04/06 (0)

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