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Re: E85 use in a WD 45 and small engines


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Posted by Hermit on July 14, 2006 at 19:11:56 from (69.21.48.33):

In Reply to: E85 use in a WD 45 and small engines posted by JackT on July 14, 2006 at 07:30:11:

The gasket, seal and fuel line deterioration is more of problem with biodiesel especially components with nitrile rubber. Professors from Iowa State University and the University of Missouri has a nice study concerning biodiesel and it's effects on vehicles (available on the 'net).

If you want to see the fuel consumption difference between regular lead-free and E-85 just go to the Ford dealership and look at the window sticker on a flex-fuel F-150. You'll see 25-30% less mpg with E-85.

Brazil is not a good example for the use of ethanol, contrary to popular news programs. Facts are presented but not all the facts. Brazil got off foreign imports not through ethanol but by expanding their own off-shore oil rigs and increasing output. The Brazilian government never required anything close to an E-85 type fuel. In fact, last year the Brazilian government reduced the amount of ethanol required in fuel from 25% to 20% because the farmers are not selling their sugar cane(the raw source for ethanol) to the ethanol plants but to the more profitable candy dealers. And now, the government wants to clear more rain forest to make farmland to grow more sugar cane and support the ethanol market. Environmentalists are opposing that and Brazil may have to start importing oil again. And look at the problems when depending on mother nature. In 2000, Brazil had a big drought that destroyed much of their sugar cane crop. They had to import ethanol from the U.S. (ADM to be exact), the second largest producer of ethanol.

There's more but the bottom line is marketing. The farmers and distillers have every right to make, and convince others, to buy their product. It's called capitalism. And those folks can try to have the government mandate E-85. Once that's done, the market will follow. Look what happened with High Definition TV. A absolutely great business scheme. It's not really needed or necessary but now it's mandated.

And remember, if E-85 is mandated the oil imports won't decrease. That's because crude oil is made into, and part of, many other products from medicines to asphalt to jet fuel. Since we're not exporting any of the other crude oil products, we'll still need to import the same amount of oil, if not more, for all those other-than-gasoline products.



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