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Re: Rattlesnake killing illegal in NY


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Posted by jdemaris on November 30, 2007 at 08:37:56 from (67.142.130.29):

In Reply to: Re: Rattlesnake killing illegal in NY posted by Allan In NE on November 30, 2007 at 06:54:54:

I don't agree. Idiocy on the part of the guy the killed the snake, yeah.

The New York DEC isn't making any great efforts to bring back the rattlesnake numbers - they are just trying to preserve the few we have left. Since the reintroduction of the wild turkeys here - they've just about wiped out the snake population - besides doing a lot of young crop damage. Rattlers and other snakes cannot reproduce anymore since turkeys love small snakes for snacks. And, we've got way too many wild turkeys here - they're everwhere. And, on that subject - the DEc has given me permits to shoot problematic turkeys whenever I want when they cause crop damage.

I don't pretend that some of what the DEC does is dumb. It's government. That's not to say though, that some of what they do, makes sense. My nextdoor neighbor is a dairy and crop farmer along with working as a DEC wildlife technician. He's pretty good - and not exactly what you'd call a "tree hugger." He's a farmer, trapper, and hunter but still has some repect for what's out there. He and many others I've met are pretty balanced.

Hopefully, most people - at least some farmers - have an understanding how many things effect each other - including thoses natural and those man-made. We had some jerk here last year going around killing wild bees in their hives in bee-trees. And, at the same time New York has a bee shortage and many pumpkin farmers have to hire swarms of bees to get their fields pollinated.

Had another jerk shooting every possum, coon, fox, coyote, woodchuck, skunk, etc. he came across because they might have rabies. He got caught shooting a young whitetail fawn claiming they carry tuberculosis. Yeah, well so do humans. Personally, I think someone ought to shoot him. If you don't like, or you fear animals then go live in a city.

I don't pretend to know how everything - affects everything else. I also can't say what good to all else a rattle snake does. It is part of the natural system however, and does not have a record of causing harm around here. Maybe out west, things are different. I've picked many up and moved them. Here in New York, they are usually too cold to move very fast. And,when they climb on a rock to get 10 minutes of sun, some jerk freaks out and kills them. They rattle because they want to be left alone, not because they want to bite somebody.

If a person feels threatened and kills one, fine. If you've got them near your home, again - go ahead and get rid of them. But some jerk out in the woods - either panicking, or killing one just for fun and perhaps needing to brag about his great conquest - well - I think he's the idiot - not the DEC guys fining him.


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