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Re: Now why was this never used in a car???


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Posted by RodInNS on May 16, 2008 at 20:57:33 from (24.224.246.156):

In Reply to: Re: Now why was this never used in a car??? posted by markloff on May 16, 2008 at 20:02:51:

I read the entire thread. It still didn't make sense as to what exactly was being asked.
If you're talking about automated manual transmissions, that's nothing new either. ArvinMeritor and Eaton/Fuller have been building them for many years now for OTR applications. Those are entirely ECM controlled. They're really only taking the standard 'Ranger transmission that's been used for 2 generations and installing the actuators for the ECM to control it. The ECM is only doing what any skilled truck driver has always done by floating gears, and all they've accomplished is making a transmission that is more durable to a pool of drivers who can't shift.... or put another way, greenhorns and jackasses can now get the lifespan from the transmission that everyone else gets. The transmission can be set to shift automatically or in a manual mode but the ECM controls the shift points. I don't believe that it would be cost effective or practical in a farm application. The way that that kind of transmission must shift does not lend itself to heavy draft conditions where there is a quick loss of momentum. That's why ag transmissions are mostly power shift today.

If you're simply talking about hammering gears at a manual transmission, then I think nearly every tractor transmission since the 60's has been of a constant mesh/sliding collar design. Ford's were and responded well to shifting without use of any clutches, the same as the RoadRanger. The only complication with this is that you had to be moving and have enough momentum to carry you through the shift.
The link provided seemed to me to be a race transmission where you're not dealing with a lot of torque, and certainly not much weight. Weight and torque make things go bang if you miss one. It's not such a factor in those cars. How many times have you seen a F1 car blow a shift like that and the tires light up on a hard downshift. Do that with 10 tonne behind and solid traction.... There will be a mess somewhere between the wheels and the crank pulley.

Rod


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