Re: Cold, Ornery Diesel question

Posted by Hugh MacKay on December 07, 2006 at 21:44:58 from (216.208.58.102):

In Reply to: Cold, Ornery Diesel question posted by FC Andy on December 07, 2006 at 16:57:37:

Andy: If everything is right the 806 should be starting without block heater or ether down to freezing. If you have one of those block heater in a frost plug hole, your going to have to plug that in 24-7. Circulating heaters with 1500 watts will do it in 30 min or 2 hours.

I'd throw that ether contraption in the dump. Buy a mid 80s Deere system, and take the can of ether to bed with you. Warm ether is much more effective than cold.

On batteries, I've run both two 6 volt in series and two 12 volt parallel, and as long as they had the same cranking amps I could see very little difference. Certainly never went out and spent money to change. I forget what amperage I ran but do remember all 4 diesels were the same. I have spent the money to buy all new battery cables. Did it once, noticed my Deere was a bit sluggish in early Dec., with 5 year old batteries. I bought all new cables exactly to factory specs. and 2 years 4 months later I bought new batteries. You old cables may look good, but very likely have leaks. I quite regularly do this even with my little Super A. It will just amaze you what new cables will do but make sure they are 00 gauge, with soldered on ends. No question those new cables on my Deere added 3 winters to the life of those batteries. The old cables didn't look bad, but if one looked at them with a mag glass, you could see breaks all along cable caseing.

This Deere was starting miles from any electricity at temps down to -30 and -35 F with just a wee squirt of warm ether almost directly from operators pocket. On the way to work he'd put the ether can on pickup defroster. I use to tell him to put the can of ether between he and the Mrs in bed. (just young couple) I said, "you'll rise in the morning earlier with a can of ether between you." I don't know as he practiced what I preached, we can only assume the Mrs. objected.

Check out your starter, make sure it's tiptop shape. Diesel starters must have bushing in top shape. As Allan suggested move that timing advance a wee bit.

My opinion is you have a whole lot of items a little bit wrong, and they all add up to trouble. One other item, your never going to get that Farmall to start miles from electricity, at -30F, with nothing but a wee shot of ether. Believe me, of my 4 - 6 cylinder diesels, 3 were Farmalls and 1 was Deere. The slogans should read nothing starts like a Deere and nothing runs like a Farmall. Seriously they are both good machines.

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• Re: Cold, Ornery Diesel question Allan In NE 04:37:08 12/08/06 (0)

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