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Re: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong
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Posted by paul on November 08, 2001 at 10:12:48 from (209.23.145.10):
In Reply to: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong posted by Steve W on November 08, 2001 at 07:08:16:
I agree, Steve. But it does kinda suck when it's the big farms that caused the problem mostly, and you're the small farm that is getting regulated out of business because of it - don't you think? I certainly understand it is the dynamics of society that is 'getting' us. The government is, after all, 'us'. I do find it ironic that much farming in the uSA will be curtailed - where we could deal with protecting the enviornment & such. Meanwhile, our agriculture will shift to 3rd world countries, where virgin lands will be ripped up & used to produce cheap food. If the nutcase enviornmental groups would ever think, maybe they could think globally & see that the end result of their goofball goals will actually make a worse world to live in, while the USA will have less agriculture, it will also have less security. I see no gain to anyone from it all. Manure is just plant growth that is decaying after passing through an animal. If we don't farm the land, the same plant growth dies each year on the land, and decays - same thing? The laws 'controlling' manure have really gone off the deep end. Or an urban example - you shouldn't burn your leaves when you rake them - gives off too much pollution!!!! Ah, but when you composte them, they release pretty much the same stuff into the atmosphere - a little slower, but same difference in 2 years time. Seems like nonsense. With the govt regulations, they think one size fits all. A 4000 unit hog operation needs an $80,000 manure containment system. A small, 50 head cattle feedlot only used 1/2 the time (cattle on pasture 1/2 the year) also needs an $80,000 manure confinement system. Well, actually, a berm thrown up with a plow, costing $25, would do the trick in this case, but no - the $80,000 system is what's required. Well, this is a very big topic, dear to my heart, and not really appropriate 'here'. So I'll stop now. Farmers had it pretty good the past 50 years, with the general public behind us & willing to help us. I guess it's time to pay the piper and have the public not understand farming at all, and mess us up a bit. --->Paul
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