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Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440
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Posted by G/MAN on December 15, 2004 at 13:34:10 from (67.52.48.10):
In Reply to: Re: What's better 1066 0r 4440 posted by Cliff Neubauer on December 15, 2004 at 09:09:48:
I would disagree with just about every part of that post. Of course, comparing the 5088 and the 4440 on any terms, price or otherwise, is a little suspect, as the actual John Deere counterparts to the 88-series IH tractors would be the 50-series, which were head and shoulders above the 88s. As far as 5088 vs. 4440, the 5088 was not and is not way more tractor. Better engine? Did the 5088 have the DT466? If so, that's a darn good engine, but so is the Deere 6466T, and the Deere has more torque at rated RPM because they produce approximately the same horsepower at a lower speed. Transmission? No way. IH only had one tranny option to Deere's two, both of which are pretty bulletproof. The powershifts can be rough-shifting, but IH never even built a full powershift, and the 88-tranny was a wannabe Deere Quad-Range, only 10 years later. The wet-type Perma-Clutch in the 4440 QR is nigh on to indestructible. Cab? The only advantage (if you call it that) was two doors. Of course the doors are not well-made and tend to fall apart after 20 years or so, but at least they were easy to lift off if the A/C quit. I won't even get into how much handier it is to have every control except for the PTO right at your right hand with your arm comfortably on the armrest, compared to IH having levers all around you. Hydraulics? The Deere SCV is infinitely better - one integrated component compared to individual valves, couplers and the lines to connect them on an IH. Hitch? The Deere hitch is way stronger, in addition to the fact that you can mount lift-assist cylinders for more lift capacity. The load and depth controls are also superior to the IH unit. Front axle? The Deere axle is more rugged (I've never seen a knee extension break on a Deere the way I've seen welded tubes on IHs), and has way fewer moving parts than the IH, along with the superior steering motor setup instead of a steering cylinder hanging down. And of course the 4440 also has 540 and 1000 PTO shafts, albeit not at the same time. But then again I've never seen anyone run a 540 and 1000 shaft at the same time, either. More parts to break. And this is all coming from someone that cut his teeth on IH 66s and 86s, and has worked on 88s. I hated Deeres forever before I got to operate them and started working on them, at which point I started realizing just how much better they were. The simple fact is that IH was too late on everything.
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