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Re: Pulling stumps


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Posted by Billy NY on May 24, 2006 at 18:58:54 from (64.12.116.74):

In Reply to: Pulling stumps posted by Mike_Joel on May 24, 2006 at 15:27:15:

I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but I hope you decide on some other means, in my opinion an ag tractor is simply not designed for this kind of work, when using something for other than it was designed, you are testing the limitations of the equipment and putting yourself at risk of serious injury or death while doing it.

A lot of us cheat, using extra care and thinking things out, but when just one thing goes wrong, it becomes an avalanche that there is no escape from.

Mind you, you could rig up and test a few carefully just to see how much resistance there is, but then it's natural to get a little greedy, then you get away with it, then your in full production moving along when that one thing goes wrong. The results make the newspaper and local news and are not anything I would chance.

I spent many years in the site work field, mass excavation, clearing and so on and can tell you that even heavy equipment can struggle with trees, stumps rocks etc. An experienced operator will have trouble somtimes and even the most experienced can become a fatality by making one wrong move, scale it down to rigging and a small tractor, poor traction, too much resistance and you have the combination for an extremely dangerous task.

I've seen chains snap, cables break, things fall out of rigging, had a piece of chain dent my o. r.o.p.s on a D-6 Cat 12 years ago, another genius was pulling a vibratory roller through the mud nearby and the chain snapped, the link hit my o.r.o.p.s. like a bullet, left a dent in the column and or upright.

I still do excavation jobs, using a rental house I have a good relationship with, 2 years ago I took a job to demolish and old in-ground pool, that was concrete and steel panels. They delivered a brand new, plastic still on the seat Cat D-4G dozer,and the first task I had to do was pull a bush out of the old pool, well I hooked to the drawbar, 1st one came out, 2nd one straightened the hook on the chain, and I was pulling up over the steel almost like a block, choked the bush at the base 5 feet down, and this bush took some doing to get out. Chain was heavy duty high tensile, glad it did not break.

Rental houses offer some of the latest equipment technology and compared to hiring a contractor the cost savings is real. The insurance thing is usually the pain, I'm fortunate that the rental house carries it, just have to be very careful, any job with risks get additional insurance. A small hoe, excavator or dozer in the hands of an experienced operator will make short work of it most likely and be a lot safer.

I won't attempt stumps with my hundred series ford and it's balanced nicely, I've towed logs with it, but decided even that is not worth the risk, when they go over, they go too quick to stop, the ford mentioned below that stood up is a good example, he's very lucky to have stopped it from going over. Then you think about the uneeded abuse to whatever it is you are using, just does not seem worth it.


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