Posted by kyhayman on February 14, 2010 at 23:06:20 from (75.104.128.36):
In Reply to: Maybe OT Type of oil posted by Cockshutt Mike on February 14, 2010 at 21:47:12:
I used Rotella 15w40 when I got my 01 Dodge new. Always before I'd used Quaker State HDX in straight 30. It seemed that Rotella was 'the brand' to use so I changed all my engines over to it. In 2004 I went back into a Case engine that I'd been in the year before (bent pushrod.... something about ether... but thats another story). Less than 200 hours on a complete out of frame overhaul and there were already deposits under the valve cover that I didnt like. Looked like a Valvoline engine from the 70's. So........ I talked to my fuel supplier who is also a full line oil distributor. What he told me was Shell spends a lot of money on a lot of advertising that some other companies dont. If you've got money going out you have to cut something somewhere and his statement was Rotella just meets the specs, no more, no less.
I told him my complaint and what he recommended to me was to go with either Chevron or Exxon. Since he's an Exxon dealer it was a little cheaper. Later on Exxon and Mobile merged and the discontinued the the Exxon labelling. Added a fancy little spout to the Mobile and raised the price almost a buck a gallon (but still a buck cheaper than Rotella).
Last fall I was looking at oil and he recommended I at least consider Conoco. I've used their hydraulic fluids for years and had good service. Seems that most of the fleets around here that he supplies had changed to it. By the gallon it was within pennies of the other stuff but by the barrel, WOW. Under $300 a barrel for 55 gallons. Rotella was $450, most of the others right around $375-$400 a barrel. In a normal year I use right at barrel of engine oil and a couple of barrels of hydraulic fluid so its foolish for me to keep buying plastic bottles. Im a Conoco farm now. How does it hold up? Not sure yet, a lot of stuff hasnt even been changed yet. What has been in and out came back as good as any other on oil analysis and better than most. Nearly all the additive materials were as high or higher than the Mobil and wear (iron, aluminum, and silcates) was right on the money where I expected it. The one thing I have noticed is it soots a lot quicker than some of the others. My take on that would be its scrubbing some of the crud out of there that some of the other brands were missing but thats just a guess.
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