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Posted by CNKS on May 17, 2007 at 19:05:05 from (204.249.178.32):

This is in reference to the "no spark" post I made, that at 9:00 PM CDT 5/17 is on page 3. I appreciate all the answers (some of which could be used as a Doctoral Dissertation). I knew it was something simple, or something I overlooked. I put the old condensor back on and noticed an unconnected wire at the solenoid. I am 95% sure I had that wire connected at one time, but may have taken it of at some time while trying to find the spark, so I am not 100% sure it was the condensor -- I looked at that wire a thousand times, maybe it unconnected itself, but I am probably just brain dead. I have good spark from the coil wire, and I think good spark at the plugs. The tractor still has not started. With other things to do today, I have not fully checked it out. I suspect timing. On the 460 (C221), the oil pump runs off the same cam gear as the distributer, in fact the distributer is connected to the oil pump. You time the oil pump at TDC, then install the distributer in the correct position. I hope I have the oil pump set right, because on the utility you cannot remove the oil pan without lowering the front axle because the stabilizer arms are welded to the axle, thus the whole thing needs to be moved. I installed the oil pan quite a while back before I installed the axle, just to get things covered up and intentionally left out the oil pump as I was going to rebuild it. Before I installed the pump, I removed the pan (barely) with the axle installed, but when I installed the oil pump, the pan would not go back on. Lot of fun moving that axle around with the front of the tractor on jack stands. Will work some more tommorrow. Main problem now is that I do not have a 460 hand crank, and cannot get a wrench on the crank bolt because I have installed the radiator fan and shrouding, and that all has to come off before I can turn the nut on the front pulley (that the hand crank fits in) with my wrench. I suppose I can tighten the fan belt to the point of breaking something and try to turn the fan, maybe with the plugs out. Possibly and use the starter button, but I can't push the button and watch the pulley, and my arms aren't long enough to reach #1 while holding down the button. Reason I am suspicious of this is that when I set TDC, I turned the engine over until I felt compression on #1. Then you are supposed to continue cranking until the engine is at the TDC mark. By the time I got there I could no longer feel the compression. The thing could be a few degrees after TDC, for whatever reason. The cam gear matches the marks on the crank gear, the pulley is keyed, thus there is only one way it goes on. AND, it could be fuel, although the carb was rebuilt and the tractor ran before I tore it down. If you don't hear from me tommorrow, I ain't got it started yet.


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