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More on the Farmall 450 electrical problem


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Posted by P and R Pete on May 04, 2011 at 16:39:31 from (173.86.61.103):

http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=farmall&th=812133

This is a follow-up to the question I raised about a melting battery terminal clamp on my father-in-law's Farmall 450, in the thread above. I printed the thread and took it to him, and then didn't see him for 2 days. In the meantime, he had no more luck getting it started.

I stopped by today, to see if he had done anything with either of his battery cables, which are both in rough shape, but he hadn't. He DID replace the one terminal.

Now, I'm not a farmer, (though I have a Super-A to pull a brush hog), and I'm mostly electronically illiterate. He was a lineman for the local power company, so he knows more than I do, and anyway, I need to be respectful when he gets his mind on something.

But I severely respect the collective knowledge here, and I'd like to ask again. Here's where things stand when I stopped by today...

First, I'm assuming this item that sits on his starter is a solenoid...

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Well, with his old cables still in place, the starter-button produced a staccato clicking in this solenoid, this after he "put a full charge on the battery yesterday". It sounded like a mostly-dead battery, so I took the battery out of my car, and though it's woefully inadequate to crank the 450 engine, at least the clicking stopped and the starter became operational and tried to begin to crank. Now, however, smoke was coming from the terminals on the solenoid. (In the earlier post, smoke was coming from the battery box)

My FIL believes the solenoid has "shorted", even though as it smoked, the starter was moving.

So am I off to think his battery is toasted? And does this indicate he needs a solenoid besides?

Feel free to get mad if he didn't want to consider the battery cables, since that's where the original melting was occurring. Even today, I gently pointed out how lousy a shape I thought they were in, but he wants to try the new battery/solenoid combo first, and worry about the cables some other day.

I'd appreciate your thoughts.


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